Here it is, our refreshed Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide. The possibility of arranging a directional like this sounds daring, however as you’ll see, Seiko makes, and made, a ton of things moderately simple for us. Yet, similarly as with everything throughout everyday life, there are admonitions. This guide will not zero in on all Seiko as the years progressed, however we’ll zero in to a great extent on watches from the mid-1960’s through the mid-1970’s and pictorially, I’ll highlight some only sometimes seen watches to whet your appetite.
Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide
Here on Fratello, we ran a top to bottom article on Seiko’s vintage Sport Divers and this seemed well and good on the grounds that the watches are genuinely energetic, contain turning bezels and different things that gatherers want. We’ve additionally discussed more established (or vintage-propelled) Grand Seiko and King Seiko . That being said, we’ve left out a significant segment of the vintage Seiko list during our excursions and this sub-sort is in all honesty the “customary” assortment. I’ve decided to utilize a portion of these models (indeed, I tossed in a couple of game jumpers with pivoting bezels that I’ve as of late reestablished or that are on their way into the spa) that I’ve gotten throughout the years as the point of convergence for representing our Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide in light of the fact that so many are anything but regular.
Seriously Cool Watches
Before we get into the core of the Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide, I’d prefer to bypass a piece and think on why a portion of the ordinary Seiko’s are so darn cool and worth your time. On the off chance that you’ll humor me, I’d likewise prefer to clarify how and why I started gathering them.
You see, when it went to the 1960’s and 70’s, regardless of whether watches came from Switzerland or Japan, there were can heaps of forgettable bland dress watches. I unobtrusively allude to these as “Poindexter” watches since they help me to remember watches that a commonplace office specialist would wear once upon a time with a polyester short-sleeve dress shirt, pocket defender, and glasses. Hello, I’m certain individuals will laugh at us one day for the manner in which we dress today, however my point is that the style for most ordinary things appeared to be quite utile and tremendously exhausting. Intelligible? Hellfire yes! Yet, they’re totally ordinary and spots like eBay are covered with these watches from some truly incredible names like Omega, Longines, Tissot, Seiko and others. Indeed, even the fancier names like Girard Perregaux and others got in on the exhausting act.
But one thing I’ve reliably found with Seiko is that they made some genuinely cool “normal” watches, close by their blah setup, that rode the line among game and dress – and furthermore added that one thing that was frequently so missing during this period: color.
This Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide Focuses on the Affordable
Also, as more foundation prior to bouncing into the Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide, for what reason did I purchase these not all that energetic/not so dressy watches? Indeed, I got them for the very reasons that I’ve purchased scads of other Seiko’s in addition to a special reward: these watches are extremely inexpensive. The fundamental purposes behind purchasing any vintage Seiko are straightforward. To begin with, I’m genuinely persuaded that you really need to attempt to murder off a Seiko.
As my amigo Andreas likes to say, old Seikos resemble Toyotas (same country, coincidentally) on the grounds that they basically don’t pass on and they’re not difficult to fix. Second, and we’ve said this so often, however it merits rehashing in light of the fact that these are cheap watches – Seiko’s quality was essentially strange. These watches were worked with automated effectiveness – which is in fact beautiful non-attractive compared to the possibility of somebody working away in the slopes of Switzerland – yet it has left us for certain incredibly very much safeguarded pieces today. Adding to that, the developments are impenetrable, many have never been reestablished or seen, and still run incredibly well. Plan savvy, I request that you investigate the subtleties: the hour markers, the case completing, the dials and more in light of the fact that there’s generally undiscovered greatness under the surface the eye. At long last, as I’ve referenced, these Seiko’s are modest. I paid between $25 (indeed, truly) and $125 for all that you’ll see here and in uncommon cases, I put another $70-80 of administration on top. In a vintage watch world gone insane and in another watch world loaded up with heaps of $250-300 false vintage fakers (they’re style watches, let’s face it), these Seiko’s simply slaughter it with value.
A Guide to the Guide
Now for some clarification on the best way to utilize this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide. From a development viewpoint, I’ll talk about a portion of the key motors utilized in three-hand watches – these were utilized in games watches, dress watches and everything in the middle. At the point when we talk about how to “date” a vintage Seiko, discovering precious stones, and different things, the guide works across all kinds of Seiko’s. Whatever we talk about, if there themes that just allude to particular sorts of Seiko’s, I’ll put forth a valiant effort to make a note of it. At long last, as I referenced above, special cases exist – in this way, when purchasing, ask inside your #1 Seiko discussion, for example, the or in case you’re unsure!
Understanding Vintage Seiko Nomenclature
I believe it’s fitting to commence our Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide with an exercise on naming show. At the point when we talk terminology, most (however unquestionably not all as we see on some manual breeze pieces) Seiko’s convey a name utilizing the arrangement of “xxxx-yyyy” where both the “x’s” and “y’s” are numbers. The “x’s” for this situation assign a development reference. This is significant in light of the fact that when searching for vintage models, a given development frequently ranges the array of dress to genuine plunge watch and just the force plant inside is the equivalent. Additionally, in case you’re keen on a given model, when you start to investigate points of interest, you may even locate that a development – I’m thinking about the always mainstream 6106 programmed – started its creation without hacking or even with a quickset date however not day and afterward progressed a year or two later. Some well known references that current chances are the 5126, 6106, 6119, 6619, and 7019 yet this is in no way, shape or form a comprehensive rundown. When filtering through eBay, you’ll see other well known number ventures once you attempt one of the references above, so my recommendation is to get lost down the hare opening and appreciate the ride – the horde number of varieties will overwhelm you. Likewise, as a little check, look on the dial underneath 6:00 and you’ll discover the development number noted there as well.
When it comes to the model number, or “yyyy”, segment of the name, this is the place where the individual plan is characterized. Seiko was a touch interesting with this in light of the fact that there are at times various 4-digit codes that reference comparable or same models. It’s alright as Seiko regularly did this to assign models for various business sectors (ex: Japan versus rest of world). On the off chance that you have questions, and this is a decent dependable guideline for any Seiko, go to Google pictures and type in the complete name of the watch (every one of the 8 digits) and guarantee that the watch you want has the correct case back. Case backs are compatible, so guaranteeing the correct case back is with the correct watch is key!
Crowns…a Purposeful Afterthought
Let’s discussion crowns for our Vintage Seiko Buyer’s manage. The positive for inventiveness fanatics on this front is that Seiko didn’t sign them. Then again, Seiko crowns are explicit. They frequently either were sunken internal or contained a smooth surface that shows up as a “cap” over the edges. For the watches we’re talking about today, none are screw-down and many are tiny. For what reason would they say they are so little? I’ve referenced this previously, however it merits rehashing: Seiko was pleased with its “sorcery switch framework”. This framework took into consideration the rotor to wind the origin when turning one or the other way and, consequently, Seiko was of the assessment that the client should “set it and fail to remember it”. Going above and beyond, none of the vintage Seiko automatics can be hand wound – so the crown isn’t a frequently utilized control.
Acrylic or Hardlex, it’s Crystal Clear
Crystal-wise, vintage Seiko’s accompanied either Seiko’s own Hardlex mineral glass or acrylic. Discovering the model number – as beat up and unsalvageable precious stones are a lot of typical when finding great arrangements – is a breeze with this . Just enter the full model number and you’ll get the precious stone part number. At that point, head over to eBay or the available to be purchased board on your #1 Seiko discussion and except if it’s something really odd, you’ll probably discover one promptly for about $10. As referenced, awful gems are extremely ordinary on old Seiko’s as most past proprietors never had interest in fixing what was a somewhat reasonable watch. However, – it’s probably the best tip I can give in this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide; never let an awful precious stone prevent you from purchasing a generally incredible watch!
“Wabi-Sabi” – a Must in any Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide
Time to talk dials and hands… Older Seiko’s are celebrated for getting what authorities note as “wabi-sabi”. In Seiko talk, this normally implies patina x 10. These exquisite Japanese watches frequently spent a ton of time in sticky conditions weren’t adjusted and dampness advanced into the watch. Strangely, dampness didn’t stop most old Seiko’s nevertheless it made some odd maturing on the lume and hands to the point that some look tremendously parasitic! The wild thing with Seiko’s is that a few group love a ton of funk and some don’t. In this way, on the off chance that you don’t adore it, continue to move, yet except if the development is a rust snare, don’t be astounded if the old monster ticks on dependably after a basic service.
Some more tips are all together on the corrective side for this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide. It really pays to do your exploration with regards to hands. Perhaps the most common mix-ups I find in vintage Seiko are erroneously supplanted hands. Finding right hands can be a genuine test, so I ordinarily leave. Gracious, one other tip for great measure. See that crazy little image above 6:00? In the event that it would seem that a hash sign that is shifted 45 degrees, it’s from Seiko’s “Suwa” or “first” factory.
If it would appear that a sideways lightning jolt, it’s from the “Daini” or “second” factory. A magnificent actuality is that these locales both planned and created novel developments! I’ve noticed that Daini pieces are harder to discover and regularly have a crown at 3:00 rather than the ordinary 4:00. Likewise, Daini observes regularly change date through pulling out and turning the crown though Suwa pieces normally permit the change to happen by more than once pushing the crown inwards and permitting it to spring back.
Intelligent Numbers – Dating your Seiko
What would the Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide be without a tip on dating your new/old watch? Indeed, here once more, Seiko simplifies everything. A brief glance at the back will yield a chronic number that is typically 6 digits. The principal digit discloses to us the time of creation and the subsequent number reveals to us the month. On the off chance that you know the decade, you’re good to go – it’s that easy!
Sometimes it Pays to Scrape the Bottom of the Barrel
Now, I’ll share some abstract counsel inside this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide on condition and evaluating. Predictable with my comment above about precious stone condition, I like discovering “hidden treasures”. I don’t care for beat up watches, however it isn’t unexpected to discover alluring Seiko’s with heaps of wrist DNA and really horrendous lashes appended to them that regularly diminish a listing.
On the note of embellishments, I seldom care about wristbands and would scarcely pay more for an alleged unique one on a watch since they’re regularly extended, wobbly or – abnormally – terrible. I additionally once in a while care about whether a 3-gave Seiko is operational in light of the fact that they are on the whole repairable. The solitary exemptions for the standard are with chronographs (can be fixed, yet it adds a proportion of trouble), jumpers that are missing bezels, or jumpers where the inside bezels presently don’t turn. I additionally avoid watches with absent or off base hands since life is too short to even think about looking and – typically – there are different watches out there to select.
Vintage Seiko – a Great Alternative to Faux Retro Watches
When it comes to valuing, I can disclose to you that I spent close to $125 for any of these watches. It is interesting in light of the fact that you will frequently see comparative models selling for a wide scope of costs – it’s simply the way that it goes and I regularly can’t clarify it! Coming back to a model on this page, the manual breeze Seiko “Athlete” model has a chrome case, however it cost an incredible $25, continues to stun time and is an enormous watch. Talking about size, these pieces are above 36mm and some command essentially more space on the wrist. As far as I might be concerned, that makes them exceptionally wearable as ordinary pieces. Besides, note the rich exhibit of shadings and one can perceive how 5-10 of these could undoubtedly discover their way to your collection.
As referenced, head over to eBay and kill an hour taking a gander at huge numbers of vintage Seiko’s. Indeed, many will come from the Far East, however the costs regularly make the danger beneficial. Numerous companions of mine are fanatic Swiss watch fans and they unobtrusively decline to go down the Seiko way. Perhaps this is on the grounds that these Japanese watches are all over the place – I like to believe it’s their fabulous form quality – or on the grounds that they come up short on a portion of the customary styling found on Swiss watches. I don’t know of the relative multitude of reasons, but rather I do imagine that in the event that you avoid adding a pleasant vintage model from one of the world’s generally creative and effective watch companies, you’re passing up a genuine chance. Besides, they’re frequently modest! I trust you delighted in this “starter” take a gander at a Vintage Seiko Buyers Guide. Don’t hesitate to add your tips beneath or a few pics of a portion of your #1 deal exemplary Seiko’s! Appreciate the hell out of your hunt!
A Seiko 6119-8300 “Rally Diver” needing an assistance and precious stone. This was a $70 find on a truly attractive watch – note the blurred however unique bezel. A glance at the rear of the Seiko Sportsmatic 6619-8060 from March, 1967. As this is a “earlier” vintage piece, it does not have a Suwa or Daini logo looking into the issue back. This crude Seiko 6619-8060 from March, 1967 will look extraordinary after a help, new gem and a hand relume. These Arabic-dialed ipeces are attractive, yet moderate, as they were well known with officers in Vietnam. Note the concealed crown. One of the more normal and reasonable Seiko Sport Divers is this 6119-6023. Quite possibly the most common vintage Seiko developments is exhibited inside this flawless Sport Diver, the 8120. In spite of some harsh cases and wabi, both of these pieces would look incredible on a rural tie or NATO. A couple of “Daini” vintage sport jumpers protected and reestablished – a 7019-6030 on the left and a 5126 model on the right. A snap back on a manual breeze Seiko 6602-9981 from January, 1968. The huge cased manual breeze Seiko 6602-9981 that cost $25 – it looks fantatsic on a splendid NATO. The Seiko 5126-8100 from 1979 “just” qualifies as vintage and note that it actually conveys the Daini image on the dial. A 7006-8059 bought for about $45. Of course, it needs a precious stone, yet it runs consummately. A gander at the rear of 7006-8059 model from July of 1972. Note the “Daini” production line image on the back. This Seiko 66-7109 with unique globules of rice arm band and manual breeze development isn’t immense yet is a “blast from the past” with its creation during the 1970’s. Here’s a Seiko 6106-8569 with a splendid green dial – note the crazing of the acrylic gem. Another common development is the impenetrable 6106. Here it is found on the lively 8237 from the last part of the 60’s/mid 70’s. This one has its unique wristband. The “Suwa” image as seen looking into the issue back of a Seiko 6119-8400 from March, 1970. This Seiko 6119-8490 has one of the coolest vintage Seiko dials I’ve at any point seen. Note the applied “Seiko” and “5” logo alongside the white inward bezel and blue external ring. Radiant! The Seiko 6119-8400 from the front. Simply see that dial and the tender loving care. Attempt and discover something Swiss for $100 that resembles that!
*This direct showed up first on November 24, 2016 and has been refreshed since.